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I often wonder if I’d be able to move back after living for so long in such a different type of society. Remember to keep in mind that our electrical outlets may be different to those in both Asia and Canada. Really, how much disposable income does one person need? Whats the average cost of living prices for a apartment in Copenhagen for a 1 or two bedroom? Clearly he doesn’t know how close Barsebäcksverket is to Denmark. Given the current political climate here in the US, and despairing that it will change soon, my husband and I are seriously considering moving to Denmark. After a long dark winter, it feels like the light nights of Danish summer are giving me new energy :). This article provides some tips and tricks for Americans curious about living in the Land of the Rising Sun. You will get looks like you wouldn’t believe, and people blatantly talking about you. We(especially my wife) buys exactly the cloth she wants, whenever she feels like it. I’m a licensed professional engineer here in California. Depending on where you settle in Denmark, you may have to downsize from a house to an apartment, or from an apartment to a room in an apartment. It’s difficult enough to learn when you’re here! On Pride Weekend, 7-11 gave out rainbow flags, the city busses flew the rainbow flag, there was a parade, and this awesome bench popped up in the park near our apartment. I knew about Denmark being a difficult place to fit/mix in so my thought have been confirmed, thank you. With all that you have said in article I still want to part of the Danish life and be happy with my family. Your article has really opened my eyes about moving to Denmark. Fortunately, I don’t have to find out, unless I want to. Summary of cost of living in Denmark. I’m not happy over here in the US, I have a family of three kids. Denmark’s largest party, the Social Democrats, is also increasingly opposed to immigration – and it also has a woman in charge.). Hear all our How to Live in Denmark podcasts on Spotify and on Apple Podcasts (iTunes). To answer that, we must distinguish between living in a western society as such vs. living in Denmark specifically. 1. Danish Americans (Danish: Dansk-amerikanere) are Americans who have ancestral roots originated fully or partially from Denmark. Just a quick info, på forhånd tak, is the right way to say it. My tax burden is around 45% of my income, not counting the 25% sales taxes on most things that I purchase.). Having grown up in an Italian family I found myself and my kids a bit loud at first lol. Now I’ve come around and in my experience living in Denmark as an American expat, I believe that having everyone’s basic needs met creates a better and more peaceful society. Explore similarities and differences. Oh really?! Thank you for your blog. What does in “Speciallægepraksisplanlægningsstabiliseringsperiode”you don’t understand?! 3. It seems like you have an idea that we, here in Denmark, can’t afford anything? Despite the chaotic state of our apartment, life is good. I’m trying to apply for a work visa or family reuinification but the rules on the nyidanmark website are so confusing to me. I detailed why quite clearly in my initial comment. With the impending Republican proposal for “healthcare accounts” (apparently I’m one of those people who should give up my iPhone for healthcare, even though that would get me by for two weeks), which I would blow through in a matter of months, moving somewhere with a better healthcare system is an attractive option. I am considering a potential PhD opportunity with Aarhus University – it is salaried, there seem to be ways around tuition, and I could probably get extra funding in the form of grants/scholarships from the US, but that doesn’t do much for my husband. New posts will not be retrieved. I’ll await a response. For now, suffice to say that we’re cooking on a hotplate, showering with a hose, and still using a duvet in lieu of curtains in the bedroom. I’d love to be able to move someday. After the current election fiasco getting out of dodge seems like a good idea. I would suggest visiting Denmark during some of the less exciting times of year, like February-March. Throughout the centuries, one of the benefits of living in Denmark has been its central location, perched as it is just north of Germany and southwest of Sweden. But mine are teens and university is creeping closer. Good things about moving to Denmark An American's view on living in Denmark (food, transportation, culture, people, language, etc.) Find Tips and Advice on Denmark from American Expats. I have a BS Degree in Health Education, I’m doing my masters but because of financial problems I stop. Denmark is lovely, especially in the summer when the sun barely sets, but there’s so much more to see in a city like Amsterdam! I also find Danes to be very welcoming. We were originally emotionally committed to two years here, but like you said – Denmark’s high quality of life has allowed our family a freedom and we have embraced it. Robert and I often say, “say what you want about the taxes, but Denmark just works.” In exchange for paying high taxes, we live in a country that functions extremely well. The Kennedy quote was to point out that Americans who want to move to Denmark need to think about what they can offer Denmark – not what Denmark can offer them. It’s a difficult path though. I will still allow my children the independence they have come to covet and respect here, but make sure they do it in safe places and that they remain aware of current conflicts. To your post about living in Denmark. Working in a hospital is different. The cost of under-3 daycare in Denmark depends on the municipality – in Copenhagen, it is DK3483 per month with hot lunch and DK2868 without lunch. I’ve never heard of anyone moving to Denmark as a retired person. Some travel exceptions include having a valid residence permit for Denmark, attending a business meeting, or being the spouse, parent, or child of a Danish citizen or legal resident in Denmark. I can’t give you specific information regarding PKU, so I suggest you find an expats in Denmark forum (there are several on Facebook) and see if you can locate someone else living with PKU for his or her input. You will find yourself working less in Denmark compared to other countries in the world. Expat Life in Aarhus, Denmark. It pretty much counts you out for any kind of government job, which account 40% of all full-time jobs in Denmark. This is to allow me to settle in with no worry and take time to get an appointment in the medical system there. There are basically three ways for Americans to move to Denmark: as a student, as a worker, or as the partner of a Dane. Particularly since many of them (the Danish People’s Party comes to mind) already feel immigrants are a drain on the system. This past year, first with Brexit and then with the US election, various mass shootings, terrorist attacks, and … It has been estimated that there are several thousand Americans living in Denmark. Yes, you would have to learn Danish. I just can’t comprehend that. Full-time nannies are also uncommon, although wealthy families sometimes hire an au pair. Check with IDA, the engineers’ union, for information about the engineering field. You are absolutely correct. US expatriate taxes add even more frustration because of the special tax rules for Americans citizens and Green Card Holders living … 5. John F. Kennedy, generally a hero to the kind of Americans who detest Donald Trump, said it this way: “Ask not what your country can do for you. Deciphering Danish words is a full-time job. Come to a danish shcool or workplace and you’ll see that everyone is so different and we love it, and treat each other equally. Thanks Monica. American couple shares what’s it like living in Denmark and enjoying the European lifestyle I’ve been living in Copenhagen, Denmark since 2017. Danes in public however, are rude and VERY judging. My American friends don’t get it but I like fresh things and honestly long grocery lists make me sick to my stomach. The national government oversees … Any thoughts from locals on what to bring to reduce start up costs? There’s a baseline of “the same for everyone” concerning healthcare, education, and basic needs. I have been in Health care over 15 years and I’m also a certified nursing assistant. Sorry, don’t agree with you. I would like to see more of the world and experience life outside of the US. Even children of Danish citizens must apply for citizenship before they become adults, and then spend a certain amount of time in Denmark in order to qualify. Denmark really is a crap shoot, some people end up loving it, many people hate it as I’m sure you know. Under the agreement, if you are a U.S. national, you can qualify for Danish ?social? I was polite but negative towards your false flagging of US politics in a blog about Denmark. Once the seat of Viking raiders and later a major north European power, Denmark has evolved into a modern, prosperous nation that is participating in the general political and economic integration of Europe. Thanks for the quick reply! Seriously, they’ll have to pry that permanent residence permit from my cold dead hands. Many Americans will notice various pros and cons living in the UK compared to the USA. We recently visited friends for about a month in Copenhagen with my wife and two kids. This sign recently popped up at a park Aarhus. I have a wonderful lady here and now a son that is almost a year old in Nykøbing Sj. I have played pro basketball here in germany, so how is the job market for ANY sports startups or anything like that? It to… Nothing to burst about. I’ve written before about how I walk around at night (winter is practically one very long night) without worrying about being robbed. They have a fun exhibit at the Danish Design Museum in Copenhagen at the moment. As a single man with no family, would this afford me a equitable lifestyle from the states? I have my theory…. The cost of living here is ridiculously expensive. If we’d had a crystal ball last October, we’d have held out for a place in better condition because a crazy DIY fixer upper project was never on our wish list. If you are considering moving to Denmark to start a family, keep in mind that local custody laws make it virtually impossible to take your children out of Denmark without your spouse’s permission. I read every word. Not speaking Danish limits your job possiblities, Moving to Denmark can be a difficult transition, Danish political parties: ‘Left’ is not leftist, and other tips for voting in Denmark, https://www.nyidanmark.dk/en-us/frontpage.htm, Driving in Denmark: Doll-size parking spaces and unexpected U-turns. I’m 57 and she 59. The worst mistake of my career. “A humorous guide for foreigners and their Danish friends” is how you describe your blog, yet deriding your own president is not humorous to me, who shares the same president. Gary. You hear about Denmark being this wonderful place, and it is, if you live there and were born there. I’m clearly foreign but I don’t fear the police. I’m living in Europe (or Asia, Australia, some random island, etc. We could learn a lot from Scandinavia. Moving to Denmark as an American has become a hot topic recently; I hear a lot from Americans interested in immigration to Denmark. She has had to have government assistance as I’m only allowed to be here for so long in the country I can’t contribute as I would like to but so far I think I can at least arrange to be here a month and in the US a month for a while. It is so nice to hear that you’re finally enjoying Denmark and that the taxes make the society a better place to live. Hi Zenon! You’ll also need to pass a Danish language test within 6 months of arriving in Denmark. They have health care, family time, time 1 year off with their babies. This past year, first with Brexit and then with the US election, various mass shootings, terrorist attacks, and instances of racism and police brutality, has really put things into perspective. and with only two semesters to go….. let us just say that ….. I’m pushing Denmark higher on my list of places to visit and I’ll continue wishing that the US starts moving towards getting rid of homelessness and giving health care and housing to all. Then you have the Sierra Nevada mountains, which has mild and somewhat humid summers (with occasional T-storms) and cold and snowy winters (for now – see comment on climate below). Thanks, Kiwi :) You’re right about the diary aspect… I often find myself reading posts from my early days here and I’m glad to have them. Nearly every suburb has fairly decent day to day shopping options, while you normally have to go to the bigger cities to find a butcher or a decent restaurant. The Scandi way is quite different. Or can I get a job in one of the nursing homes.I’m planning to live in Amager. Not every article on every platform has to conform to your particular needs or your way or looking at the world. I also have certification in economics and financial accounting.I’m black do you think I would have a problem with race? It just dosen’t work. Currently I am a relatively high skilled IT person making 135k in the states. In fact, no humor was intended by you, only animus. That’s Denmark in a nutshell. I had the form in hand two days later and a few days after that someone called to make sure I had what I needed. Most offices are empty here in this country by 5 PM. It’s my hope you don’t abandon blogging altogether as I do enjoy checking in on how you and yours are faring. We aren’t any richer that our next door neighbor, nor any poorer – the thing is, – if you are able to prioritize you can get what you want here as well, – even without the fear of the next hospital bill or the fear of not being able to afford your kids education. Is it REALLY free health care and free school or does that ONLY apply to eu citizens or native danes? What a challenge it must have been to learn a new environment and way of life. I knew going into the move that living in Denmark as an American was going to be a challenge. Alternately, he would actually be very interested in apprenticing with a Danish furniture-maker, as long as it paid something. If you want a little more nature, and still be very central in Copenhagen, Amager is also a great place to live. But as outsider I hear how it’s the most happiest place in the world and I want to be happy. How about coming over to study part time and work part time? I was just there in the Spring and would love to live and perform there as a Jazz singer.. I just need to be pointed in the right direction. 4. He seems to believe there will be a nuclear attack on the US and that he would be safer in Denmark. I will bring my bicycle as well. Any suggestions/tips you have for me would be great! Hi Jim. I guess I’m trying to find out where the suburbs are. For the greatest majority of Americans, moving to a Scandinavian country would involve taking several steps back in terms of personal freedom, standard of living, social life and, what a shock!, healthcare. Your experience sounds amazing. So glad that you are settled in very nicely – very wonderful :). I kind of don’t have a choice ; -) But yeah, compared to other places, Denmark has a lot going for it and as a freelancer, not having to work about health insurance is a huge burden lifted. A great post and balanced viewpoint. I would suggest that you join one of the local Facebook groups – Expats in Aarhus. She also shares her tips for future expats in France, detailing the cost of living, how to learn French, and the best things about living … So what should I do first, travel over to Denmark and see what’s out there or should I just forget about Denmark and be unhappy. I always assumed it was so based on reading about it, but I have never been. Can you address what the opportunities would be for high net wealth individuals over age 60, those not needing or looking for employment and would be willing to significantly invest in DK. Were you just virtue signaling, as I saw “donald-trump” as an actual part of the URL, used as a sort of blog tag. that simply don’t happen in Denmark because schools crack strongly down on things as bullying. Here, she shares about French style, cheek kisses, and the honest ups and downs of being an American expat in France. College costs in the US are skyrocketing, government assistance for college has become anemic, requirements for grants and scholarships are tightening, and California’s ScholarShare Program is projecting that, by the time my kids are college age, it will cost me over half a million USD to send them to college (and that’s probably assuming they only go for four years instead of the more realistic five years). So many memories and experiences get lost in the rush of everyday life. I think we all have moments of home sickness from time to time, but I couldn’t think of a better country to call home :), Thanks, Michelle :) Wow… 30 years! Aarhus has a distinctly bohemian vibe to it, which complements Denmark’s overall laid-back vibe very well. I’m making a living doing something I love and I get to sleep in and work from home with my cat pretty much every day. My husband was born in Denmark and has dual citizenship. But, they are really scarce, instead we have something like sunset boulevard which makes fantastic sandwiches and burgers =D. 2020 has been... interesting. In Copenhagen, many families rely on bicycles and buses. Having children, I was more tightly bound to the US, and my advanced age made it problematic for me to retire in Europe. How is the political system there? If you choose to move to a less central and populated area, you can get fairly cheap housing and as Denmark is really small it is easy to drive to the locations you want. Robert is also working more than full-time and preparing to submit the dissertation for his next (highest) level doctorate. This is an amazing story. I’m past whining about the (insane) taxes and pay up my 8% so that everyone can have healthcare. You’ve got it all wrong. So, given what I’ve outlined above, would you say it’s worth the risks or should I look elsewhere? After that, it’s up to the individual. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! As an overweight female American, I was looked at like a I was a monster. But we’re trying to focus on the prize and I’ll tell the sordid tale in serial format when I finally have some before/afters worth showing. The thought of having to get re-established in the States is daunting to say the least. But because my work contract was changed to open-ended, getting the company to move me back to the US wasn’t nearly as straightforward as moving over. Danes in stores don’t say excuse me (undskyld mig) and will cut in front of you in the store. In other words, they are in fact fleeing toward Trump’s America. Perhaps because I am European at heart, I had little trouble feeling like I belonged, no matter where I visited. If you’re thinking of making Denmark your country, what can you do for Denmark? At TFX we have been preparing taxes for Americans in Denmark since 1998. I’d love to come sight see! I too market shop almost daily. Yes, please don’t stop blogging! Travelling to Denmark before moving here is always a good idea, but I’m not quite clear on what would make a move to Denmark possible for you. I love your healthcare silver lining (high tax, but great healthcare). After firing all of our contractors, we’re DIY-ing as much as we can and will deal with the rest as it comes. Yes, I did critique you, which, I’m assuming is allowed. I found this link while looking for thoughts on what to bring versus buy once there. I was an exchange student in Kolding, DK for a year. I could go on and on…….. I’m not an official source – check the official government site https://www.nyidanmark.dk/en-us/frontpage.htm – but keep in mind that the Danish government has some onerous requirements for spouses of Danes if they hope to live in Denmark legally. He or she must also be able to put down a deposit of about US$8000 with the government to prove that she or he is able to support you. My husband and I built a house a number of years ago and did most of the work ourselves. I stayed in Ohio in a small community when I lived in the States, and I felt very much like an outsider and never really adapted to the mentality. I’m 14, and as a Dane i know that Danes in general, are raised to be sympathetic and caring people, and to embrace all our differences. You make learning fun! I have lived in the States and in Switzerland, and I Think Denmark is not as different from the mentality in certain areas of the US, so I guess it depends a lot on your background in the States whether you will feel at home in Denmark. Visa requirements and job market for start ups, sports, logistics, warehouse work, customer service jobs are like… If any of u kno. (For what it’s worth: I’d plan on learning Danish before leaving the USA), Check out the Work in Denmark website, which says: “Citizens from the Nordic countries, the European Union (EU) and European Economic Area (EEA) and Switzerland are entitled to live and work in Denmark. Thanks for sharing your experience. It always makes my day when you comment :). He does a fair amount of design in his work and I think something like this would actually be good for his career, and with the 10 years of experience he already has, he should be a good student. Best of luck with your move, I hope to hear from you again :), 7 years! I don’t have any personal knowledge though. Any company that hires a non-EU citizen has to go through a long song and dance with Denmark’s notoriously Byzantine Udlændingstyrelsen, or “Foreigners Directorate.”. (Denmark also doesn’t have the hiking or skiing opportunities California does, although Norway is close by.) I wish I could say that Copenhagen is still enjoying the comfort of safety, but with the summer’s gang violence and Police enforced (NO) Visitation Zones, I see a slightly different side. I hear its a very right wing system full of baby trumps. You really needed, in this blog post, to mention Trump at all or was it just for hits? Honestly, for any Americans moving…it does take some adjustment. I looked on the work in Denmark website but they never say the amount.. thanks in advance. I have cycled to work for many decades and look forward to the apparently fantastic bike infrastructure. However, the downside is you don’t get something for … On the contrary,they are very happy people. You will have to “earn” it with language classes and a long list of other requirements. I’ve always wondered what it would be like to move to another Country as an American. Learn how your comment data is processed. Some summers have as few as a week or two of swimming-quality sunny weather. I’m totally on board with that even if it means having less in Denmark than I might have in another country. If you are an american wanting to go to Denmark, if you will find a severe lack of fast food chains, in Denmark we mostly eat McDonald’s and they are everywhere in the cities. I’ll always feel like an outsider and paying attention to the immigration debate will always make me feel unwelcome. On that salary in Denmark, you are looking at around 48% of your income in taxes, plus 25% sales tax on everything you buy, plus additional hefty taxes (up to 150% of the sales price) if you decide to own a car. Congratulations on your seven years in Denmark Sage! After seven mostly difficult years of living in Denmark as an American expat, I’m a sure as I can be that I’m never moving out of Denmark. The hardest adjustment for me was the language then the weather. Oppressive State, asocial people with no empathy, low salaries, insane prices. Do you think I can be allow to open a small retail business there as a foreigner? HAHA. He is a Danish citizen although he has lived here since he was 5. But is it any better for foreigners living in America, or anywhere else? In Copenhagen, we have A LOT of tourists, and I only experience everyone being super nice and smiling to each other. The job would be in Århus. The peculiarities that drove me nuts in the beginning don’t really register anymore. Leif is right, and actually this “dagpleje” system is also available within Copenhagen. If not, can you point me somewhere that might? Really, the main obstacles are our children and grandchildren. Denmark is a great place to do business. Americans love Japan. It’s also a good way to build up the kind of network you’ll need for jobhunting, and provides time to wrestle with the challenges of the Danish language. Wow! Work begins at 8 and ends at 4 sharp, with no long lunches – Danes are focused. Copenhagen is biking and using public transportation, is that it is the fastest way of getting from A to B. Keep blogging please! Most importantly, how is the visa process in denmark if you are american or a non eu citizen? :). P.S. Moving to Denmark as a worker We live in SF with our son and find it very hard here. Traveling and being away from “home” and where you’re most comfortable can be hard, but I’m glad you have adjusted and are enjoying your time in Denmark. I finally ended up in Odense, but know Aarhus quite well. Living in an international city like Aarhus is so very different from where I lived in the beginning. We are close to another area known as “The Delta” which has an extensive wetland system connecting to the San Francisco Bay (I’ll explain why I’m mentioning this in a moment). At the moment, both you and your partner must be at least 24 years old. Japanese culture fascinates many people in the states, and its strong economy draws in many expats. And thank you for not calling him a “demigod,” that makes the copy editor in me stabby! Indices Difference Consumer Prices in Denmark are 28.22% higher than in United States (without rent) Consumer Prices Including Rent in Denmark are 13.78% higher than in … Living in Denmark changed my life. Smaller companies, however, will probably flinch at hiring someone who needs help getting a working visa, particularly since the rules for doing so seem to change constantly. It’s all about knowing where to go. Family of four estimated monthly costs: kr32,308; Single person estimated monthly costs: kr16,760; Cost of living in Denmark is more expensive than in 72% of countries in Western Europe (6 out of 18) Cost of living in Denmark is more expensive than in 85% of countries in the World (12 out of 75) free childcare. In all honesty, when I was traveling here for work I didn’t enjoy Denmark at all (I wrote a bit about that in 2009). They truly happy being they realize stuff and does not make you happy. I speak English, Italia and French. Cost of Living in Denmark Select city in Denmark: Cost of living in Denmark is 28.23% higher than in United States (aggregate data for all cities, rent is not taken into … In general, the system tries to avoid giving out pharmaceuticals at all if possible (there are strict limits on antibiotics and sleeping pills, for example), and importing those drugs from abroad will get you a hefty fine or worse. My advice is to not let a place define your happiness. Its ideology matches my values and it’s treating me well on balance. Stay-at-home parents are unusual in Denmark, where the idea is that everyone who can work outside the home should do so, and children usually begin government-run day care when they are about a year old. Besides, the high income tax rates (up to 52% for earned income; the top rate starts at around USD$75,000 per year) make it difficult for one person to support a family. The government recently stopped supplying free Danish courses to anyone with an approved residence visa, but courses are still widely available. Østerbro and Frederiksberg both have good living conditions, but most of them also, so that’s why they are also some of the expensive places to live. I hope this helps a little. No visa-free resettlement Not sure if you’re in the building trades, but there will be a huge tunnel being built in the next few years from your area to Germany. But do not forget: we have a big ethnocentric right wing party and our gowerment is based on their mandates. It can be tough to make Danish friends even as younger person or someone with a team of colleagues; as an old person, surrounded by people who already have lifelong friends and are unlikely to be comfortable speaking anything but Danish, it would be even more difficult. There is an expectation that you spend some time pursuing the things that you love or making time to be with your family and friends. 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